Paying affiliates instantly?

[MikeM]

Just wondering on the paying affiliates instantly. I don't seem to belong to any affiliate programs that do that. Almost all of them have at least a 30 day guarantee period before you get paid. What do you do for refunds? Are you out the money you already paid the affiliate or does RAP keep track of that and give them a negative credit? Also wondering if it works on a 2 payment system where the customer pays you and then pays them or if it handles it all in the background and RAP sends the money to the affiliate?

I guess I could read there sales page, but it seems some here already use RAP and may know the answer. OK, OK, you caught me. I'm too lazy to go read the whole sales page :)

[Jim Phillips]

Hi Mike,

Good question. :)

Since the money is paid instantly into the affiliates paypal account the affiliate is responsible for the refund.

It will show on the receipt and transaction number as going into the affiliates paypal account.

If the customer asks for a refund thru paypal it will direct it thru the affiliates paypal which received the payment.

Hope that helped.

Best Regards,

Jim

PS. I use Fantasos for my sales management script.

[MikeM]

Hi Jim. I also have Fantasos (R) (apparently your supposed to put the registered trademark everytime you say it :) ) but was just wondering about RAP, cause I seem to get a lot of email about it.

I also have access to a hosted version through my Unselfish Marketer membership, which has more features than my version, cause I haven't bought any of the upgrade modules.

For some reason I flip flop like an old fish on using Fantasos (R) and DLGuard. :rolleyes: because DLGuard is fast to set up a product in.

I tried JROX affiliate manager, but everytime the download page opened, it recorded another sale :eek: I tried everything they said, but still didn't help.

I need to quit moving products from one script to the other and settle on using 1 and stick to it.

[Jim Phillips]

Hi Mike,

If I put an (R) after everytime I mentioned a registered trademark in a sentence my
typing would be slower than it is now. :)

I remember when RAP first came out in the Warriors forum. You could have bought it
for a very good price. Now I think it is around $147.00. Not really expensive. But it
doesn't have every feature I need. I'm pretty sure you can't use paypal recurring payment
option with RAP. There might be an add on for sale some where.

I really like Fantasos's. But then again I don't use every feature. So it is easier to use
for my purposes.

Have a Merry Christmas everyone. This year has been fantastic... Next year is going to be
even better. That is my Christmas wish for all.

Best Regards,

Jim

PS. (R) added everywhere it is needed. ;)

[TigerSoftware]

Just wondering on the paying affiliates instantly. I don't seem to belong to any affiliate programs that do that. Almost all of them have at least a 30 day guarantee period before you get paid. What do you do for refunds? Are you out the money you already paid the affiliate or does RAP keep track of that and give them a negative credit? Also wondering if it works on a 2 payment system where the customer pays you and then pays them or if it handles it all in the background and RAP sends the money to the affiliate?

I guess I could read there sales page, but it seems some here already use RAP and may know the answer. OK, OK, you caught me. I'm too lazy to go read the whole sales page :)


Hey Mike,

RAP makes 100% payments to the you and the affiliate.

So you have a product that you are giving away 50%.


The first purchase will go to you and then the next to the affiliate. You can change the percentage and even offer 2 tier commissions this way. It just works out whom the next payment is suppose to go to.

If the customer refunds, then RAP knows about it. The refund will have to be made by the person that received the payment. You can always suspend the affiliate account if they don't refund.



Thomas

[TigerSoftware]

Hi Mike,

If I put an (R) after everytime I mentioned a registered trademark in a sentence my
typing would be slower than it is now. :)

I remember when RAP first came out in the Warriors forum. You could have bought it
for a very good price. Now I think it is around $147.00. Not really expensive. But it
doesn't have every feature I need. I'm pretty sure you can't use paypal recurring payment
option with RAP. There might be an add on for sale some where.

I really like Fantasos's. But then again I don't use every feature. So it is easier to use
for my purposes.

Have a Merry Christmas everyone. This year has been fantastic... Next year is going to be
even better. That is my Christmas wish for all.

Best Regards,

Jim

PS. (R) added everywhere it is needed. ;)


Hi Jim,


I got a package deal. It was RAP, a paypal scubscription add-on and a membership add-on for $220 of something like that.

I want to run everything through this. It is great for the affiliates and I don't have any accounting at the end of the year for affiliate payments.


I also just purchased Conversion Prophet. It is a taguchi testing script and normally retails for about $350. I found a old link on the warriorforum that had it for $177 and when I clicked the purchase it ended up being $147. Merry Christmas to me. hehe


Now I am all set for massive ppc action as well as affiliates. My goal is to get everything up and running by the end of the year. I have a membership I am going to create as well.



Thomas

[MikeM]

The first purchase will go to you and then the next to the affiliate.

So the customer has to make 2 payments? I don't really like that.

I have enough trouble getting anybody to pay once. ;)

[TigerSoftware]

So the customer has to make 2 payments? I don't really like that.

I have enough trouble getting anybody to pay once. ;)


No, one payment.

You got 2 sales. The first sale goes 100% to you. The second sale goes 100% to the affiliate. This is setting a 50% payout to your affiliate.

The customer makes one payment. The software either sets your paypal address or the affiliate's paypal address as the recipient.


Thomas

[MikeM]

OH. I get it now :)

[Dexx]

So whats the benefit of RAP over something like ClickBank which has the affiliate market base and handles all the transactions and refunds easily with less work required or "disciplinary" consequences for ignorant affiliates that wont refund?

Plus the $150+ purchase fee...?

[TigerSoftware]

So whats the benefit of RAP over something like ClickBank which has the affiliate market base and handles all the transactions and refunds easily with less work required or "disciplinary" consequences for ignorant affiliates that wont refund?

Plus the $150+ purchase fee...?

Hi Dexx,


The affiliates get paid instantly which makes them want to sell for you even more. This is the main reason.

You have control over refunds. Clickbank will refund for anything. You don't have to when dealing with your own affiliate program. Paypal won't intervene unless there is a chargeback or the product didn't get delivered.


You can do what you want with your sales pages while Clickbank will have a say in what your sales page will contain. This really isn't a major issue to me.


I am not sharing my affiliates with other people. I will be recruiting affiliates and don't really want them to sign up with Clickbank. I want them to promote my products not the hundreds on Clickbank. I am greedy like that. :D


You don't have to wait for clickbank to send you the money or to get a certain amount of sales from different credit cards to get paid.





Thomas

[stevinium]

And if you read the fine print on clickbank, you will see that you will be charged a fee for every refund.
If I remember correctly, the fee was $18
I may be wrong, but make sure to read the tos or publisher agreement, or whatever so you know the deal before you start.
Steve

[Jim Phillips]

Hi Steve,

On clickbank refunds (returned sales) - there is no fee charged. But there is a $18.00 fee for a credit card chargeback. Usually clickbank will just refund so it doesn't usually go to the credit card for a chargeback. That $18.00 fee goes higher to an additional $35.00 if you have 1% chargebacks of sales made in a 90 day period.

That is rare. Usually fraud is involved.

Best Regards,

Jim

PS. I never had a chargeback fee from clickbank...

I have had refunds.

Someone is always trying to get something for nothing. :)

[stevinium]

Thanks for clearing that up Jim. I read it awhile ago and didn't remember the details.
Steve

[MikeM]

And personally, that is why I don't like ClickBank. There is no questions asked on chargebacks. You log in, say you want a refund, and boom you got it. Don't get me wrong, if somebody doesn't like the product or can't use it, I always honour the refund guarantee period, but I would like to be contacted, so I can get a reason. If there is a problem, I want to be the first to know so I can try and fix it. This also keeps me in contact with the customer and I can tell if they are a freebie getter or have a legitimate request.